I agree too automatic shutdown of the engine is very bad idea.

I hope mitsubishi will get back on their gdi engines. those engines idle at very low rpm(650-700), making then more economical in city' s. Those engines do use 15% less fuel then other cars of that time(late ninetees). Also the direct injection gives a lot of torgue at low rpm' s making it very nice to drive with. Even today, those cars are still more economical then new cars of same type and size. For example, Toyota prius is only more ecomomical because of its ugly super streamlined design and narrow extra-low-resistence-tyres, the engine/hybrid system itself is worse then the 1.8 gdi engine of mitsubishi.

The downside was, the gdi engines need high quality petrol, which made them inpopular in Netherlands due to crazy tax systems on anything which has something to do with cars.

So, all those fancy systems are just a complete waste of money, its all about the engine.
hybrid-systems, automatic shutdowns, feedback systems, are a complete waste of resources and are very bad to the enviroment due to very dirty production. Often it is said this is countered with reclycling. But a normal car gets also for 95+% recycled too..


But ontopic:-) Some agree automatic shut off in lfs should stay in lfs, some don' t care at all, and some people agree with me.
It will be up to scawen i think

Quote from Napalm Candy :

Hi,

I want to make a suggestion, that i think it is very important. When drive a real car, and turn wheel the feel is more hard, but if turn too much, the feel is very soft.

In LFS, the strong of wheel in a turn, is EVER the same. It is a problem for me becouse i don't feel when i'm in understeering

Sorry my bad english

I noticed this effect irl when understeering with my previous car which had good standard road tyres, My current car also this effect but less severe, but this car is equipped with very high performance road tyres. The downside is slightly less ride-comfort.

So i think the difference is the tyres, from personal experience, high performance tyres are better on the limit and thus steering does not get suddenly a light feeling with slight understeer, but just a small drop off which tells you, you are getting very near to the limit. On standard tyres it is more likely to happen that the steering gets very light when understeering. Its all about the tyres..

Just a note on your calculations: if you use polytropic with n=1.4 you are doing an adiabatic process. This means no heat was added which is not the case. Isochoric (constant volume) is more what a tyre is like.

Even if you did have the skills and dedication to make enough money at 16 to go racing on a shoestring do you really think your chances would be good against people who have nothing else to worry about than their next training or their next test day? Surely to make that kind of money you'd be working till late Friday night while the others are testing since Wednesday or Thursday?

So I don't see why V1 wouldn't make sense, even if you were right.

I just ripped a random CD twice with audiograbber and then md5ed the results. Turns out both rips were identical, something that never happened last time I did these kind of tests.

So maybe the problem isn't as big as I thought (maybe old drive was rubbish?) but there's still a fundamental problem when people come up with stuff like accuraterip just to make copies of digital data.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R ... Obtaining_an_accurate_rip

If I do a digital copy I want 1:1 garanteed or nothing, just like with CD-ROM or DVD Video. With Audio CD this isn't the case. Even EAC has to use a checksum database to make sure a rip really is the same as what other people have ripped.

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Don't know if it's still true but last time I was looking for a ripper EAC was the only one that actually did some kind of digital error checking on the data it copies. All the others will but put clicking, damaged tracks on your HD without blinking, if the CD is dirty or scratched. That's why I always say audio CD's are only semi-digital as digitized data without error checking doesn't take advantage of one of the most fundamental features of digital data: 1:1 copies.

Quote from Shotglass :

hm did you know most suicide bombers are perpetually single? i suppose having a few guys take all women off the market makes having 72 virgins all that more tempting

Bingo. It's a simple numbers game. Polygamy=higher number of frustrated males that are considered unworthy by the females that all want the same guy and become potential trouble makers. To take an extreme view I believe that modern day sexual openness (frequent change of partners) is one of the reasons for the rise of loonies shooting up schools.

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If your question is where do I need to be to start a career the answer is 300 000 € in FBM Euro. If it's how can I get some "cheap" track time ask Tristan.

Oops, meant '91 of course.

Quote from Shotglass :

uh how about beating piquet a 3 time world champion in his first ever (part) season at benetton?

MS 1991 Benetton results: 5, 6, 6, ret, ret
NP in the same races: 6, 5, 11, 7, 4

That's 4 points for MS and 4.5 points for NP (because of washed out Austrailia).

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Quote from tristancliffe :

Don't even TRY to compare LH to Schumi in terms of results.

Agree, after last year there is really nobody that would look good being compared to Hamilton (if you only compare debut seasons). And Hamilton has already done one thing that Schumacher refused to even attempt: beat a proven race winner in the same car.

I can't take any post serious with "the competitors are catching up" in it. Not that there aren't some promising projects out there but at the moment they are no more than just that: projects that may be good sims in the future.

The claims that LFS is being overtaken have been made for years and years and are just getting old. Do some research and you will see that in reality netKar was a scam, ISI still uses the same ten year old physics engine and drivers republic just died without a word.

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Quote from wsinda :

I certainly don't mean the latter: I'm an atheist, so I don't think there is anything like an immortal soul.

As to free will being an illusion: all people feel they have free will, and they generally consider themselves responsible for their actions. If this is an illusion, then it's a damn good one. So good, in fact, that human perception can't distinguish it from real free will. (That is, if you can define such a thing as "real" free will. The concept is messy, IMHO.)

In short: I think I have free will, you think I have free will, and society thinks so too. Therefore, for all practical purposes, free will exists.

That's actually quite similar to my own beliefs. Although it does make me place a slightly lower value on questions of blame, guilt and responsibility than an average modern free person probably does.

Lol, what exactly is on the picture with the sheep thingy?

Quote from Hankstar :

What exactly does that mean? That anything not 100% explainable by physics right at this moment must, by definition, have a "supernatural" explanation? Ridiculous. If that's how scientific enquiry worked, we'd still be sitting around in caves, naked, under the assumption that angry gods made the scary thunder and lightning and wondering what we could do to cheer them up. Just because there isn't a natural explanation for something right now, it doesn't mean there never will be or that god did it.

No scientist will ever claim to have all the answers or the absolute truth (unlike most priests I've encountered). True scientific enquiry is never finished because each new answer just brings with it more questions! To assume that the absence of an immediate explanation automatically implies the presence of gods, ghosts or goblins is wishful thinking, a lack of imagination or just plain lazy.

Agree with what you say. I think what I was getting at is that some people who think of themselves as philosophers (i.e. have no interest in physics) aren't even aware of the problem.

Quote from wsinda :

Free will doesn't "mesh with physics", it is physics. It's somewhere in that immensely complex structure that is our brain. You won't find free will by prying open the skull and inspecting the neurons, because there are many levels of abstraction in between. (Like there would be when talking about emotions, memories, and character traits.)

Do you mean something like illusion of free will? Or do you mean that the "immortal soul" or whatever you want to call it is in fact a physical entity?

I feel F1 fanboyism in general is getting out of hand. I'm a Hamilton fan but there is no way that the Alonso incident even looked anything close to brake testing. Just because Martin Brundle got it wrong doesn't mean everybody has to start jumping up and down, depending on which hater bandwagon they're on.

Anyway here's my list of fame for this race.

Great Success:
Fisichella: written off yet destroying Sutil and mixing with the works teams
Massa: nothing spectacular but didn't bow to overrated Raikkonen this time
Kubica: for being the currently closest Ferrari competitor

Epic Fail:
Hamilton: for forgetting to setup his electronics, hitting the back of Alonso and venting his frustration at Sato and Fisichella
Coulthard: for trying to convince himself that Button may have vanished into thin air
Sutil: for completely ruining the reputation he built up last year

Quote from scania :

this is a Touring car championship in China, call "China Circut Championship"
Polo, Geely, TIIDA, KIA, Hyundai, 206, 307, Citroën, Focus, Auccord(Chinese version), sunny, Brilliance & Lancer are in this race.
There are 2 group(exclude Formula race) in this Championship: 1.6L & 2.0L
2.0L have more rule on tune & parts changh, 1.6L can changh many things. This Polo, someone said it is a FF version of DTM car, but in the slowest team in 1.6L, their car have very little changh, lesser than the Group N race car, so you can see the Polo can see the black maker in first 5 lap.

2.0L & 1.6L will not race together. in some shorter track(e.g. Beijing), the best lap or qualfily lap time 1.6L car can faster than 2.0L. & the Polo's best lap is faster than the Carrera cup Asia's Group B driver in Beijing.

Another "Super Touring" CCC race car-- Nissan TIIDA Tuned by Nismo will show in this year, someone said it will be a FF version of Super GT car.

Thx for info. So is this the premiere racing series in China? Does it attract spectators? Are the drivers professionals or club racers?

hi! I'm a new driver and this is the first post i write!
I think that this is the definitive simulator ever and has the opportunity to cover all the racing disciplines! I personally am a rally fun and i hope that interesting stages will be developed as soon as possible because, perhaps, this sim could become also the main rally sim on the entire actual theater ( mitic RBR included !! )

All the best to the Roberts family!

So if free will doesn't need super natural power then how exactly does it mesh with physics?

What's this thread about?

An upcoming racing series in China? Then how about some info? Is it like a Chinese version of the Polo Cup i.e. nothing can be changed except tyre pressure? Or is it more a Chinese touring car championship where different manufacturers produce cars according to a certain ruleset?

But why do the Nazi claims bear any importance to you? If legality is the measure by which you judge his acts then I don't think Nazi role playing is illegal in England.

And if legality isn't the measure, then you are applying you own personal measures, which you have every right to do, just like everyone has the right to not want to have a sado freak as the sport's leader.

While I think it's pretty frightening that a newspaper can legally(?) set up a trap like that and put the clips out in the wild, I don't think there is any way Mosley can keep his position. Even without the nazi aspect, I wouldn't want Motorracing to be headed by a man who will go down in history for getting royally spanked and whipped on youtube. Most people find that kind of kink repulsive and will not be able to take him or the sport seriously in future.

If the Nazi aspect is true (I didn't watch the video) then there's nothing to discuss anyway.

For anyone interested in real life data the sample files that are included with the free Motec download have tyre temp data channels.